Which sites will make the IE8 Compatibility Hall of Shame?
Does anyone’s parents or grandparents still use IE8?
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246 Responses
1.2.2009
Obviously no one here read TFA, the article says that these sites are on the IE8 hall of shame because the authors have *not* bothered to add a line of code making them work with IE8. It’s not an IE bashing article.
1.2.2009
<meta http-equiv=”X-UA-Compatible” content=”IE=EmulateIE7″>certainly does the job for me: browsershots.org/ beermad.org.uk/ …Earliest (bottom) pic without it, later (top) pic with it.
1.2.2009
@beermad,Did you do anything other than add that meta tag? The W3 validator says your site is valid HTML 4 Transitional. If your site was valid before the tag, then IE 8 should have simply rendered it correctly. If IE 8 didn’t, then it’s not standards compliant, simple as that.
1.2.2009
Of course.It’s all everybody’s fault but Microsoft’s that they’ve produced a heap of ***** that can’t cope with sites that every other browser renders perfectly.Perhaps Microsoft should have actually done some work to make sure that standards-compliant sites could be rendered properly by it?
1.2.2009
Everything on Digg is a MSFT bashing article…
1.2.2009
Yeah, but it should just work like all the others..
1.2.2009
Guess my dream of IE making their next version proper has been sorely crushed. IE is very frustrating to design for and in many cases limits what you could possibly create.
1.2.2009
Read the article – They’re making IE8 so that it works with the old ***** web coding from old versions of IE, not that there’s something inherently wrong with IE8.
1.2.2009
It amazes me how much of this ***** we still see in 2008: ( FTR. C4 is a major British TV website ) screencast.com/t/jY7wKiN5
1.2.2009
That’s probably some stupid DRM-type system. That doesn’t make it right, but it makes it somebody else’s fault.
1.2.2009
Agreed, but if the other major British TV channels can get passed it, why can’t these muppets?
1.2.2009
The BBC only just announced Mac support for iPlayer this week. If you choose to stick with a platform that is used by a tiny proportion of the population then you should expect to have to wait a while for developers to support you. BTW, this isn’t a browser issue.
1.2.2009
reminds me of Netflix watch now service
1.2.2009
It has become culture to assume that many innovations by Microsoft is not up to standard. I have used IE8 & I would say it is pretty decent.
1.2.2009
So, Microsoft is bitching because web designers made websites cater to their buggy browser? What the ***** is with this idiot? Am I missing something?
1.2.2009
In other words, they shouldn’t fix the problems?
1.2.2009
They’re really not bitching. If they were bitching, they wouldn’t have made a compatibility mode with automatically updating list. They’re just surprised that sites designed for IE6 haven’t been updated to be more standards-compliant, especially now that IE6 is not supported, and should’ve been patched off whatever Windows systems it was on.
1.2.2009
I am glad to see my parents and grandparents are not the only hardcore beta testers out there.
1.2.2009
Did the submitter and the people commenting think the article was about IE6?
1.2.2009
Hell I did
1.2.2009
…or no one could update their sites with this ’simple line of code’ so people will stop using IE…
1.2.2009
They wouldn’t stop using IE. Just your site.
1.2.2009
Stopped reading after the article stated MS is calling on designers to get their act together and tweak their sites for IE8…the IE team should return the favor and start making their browser more standards-friendly instead of requiring workarounds to make things work in IE.
1.2.2009
You stopped reading, and that’s why you made the ignorant second half of your comment.Get a clue.
1.2.2009
Why should people have to find workarounds for a browser that doesn’t conform to standards when such things exist? I’m just saying that other browsers are much better options because they aren’t being left in the dust as far as supporting standards…honestly, there are mobile browsers that still fail but test better than IE.
1.2.2009
@tripsyncYeah! They should continue to run their corporate stuff on systems KNOWN to be standards non-compliant instead!MS is TRYING to get things updated and fixed. It’s people who write the intranet and corporate sites who are still designing for old non-standards.Compatibility mode tries to take these morons into account.
1.2.2009
reading comprehension fail
1.2.2009
If you say IE doesn’t suck is because you are not a web developer.
1.2.2009
I’m sure Grandpa and Grandma are using a pre-release developer edition of Internet Explorer 8.
1.2.2009
IE: Facepalm of the internet, and broken since, well, always.
1.2.2009
As old Willy S. wrote in Hamlet: "For tis the sport to have the enginer Hoist with his owne petar".
1.2.2009
Are you people ***** retarded? Web sites don’t work in IE8 BECAUSE it is standards complaint.
1.2.2009
yes people here are ***** retarded. Everything MS = bad, apple = teh *****. I am not a MS liker, but I keep an open mind to things.
1.2.2009
Which means that if site works in FF it should work in IE8?
1.2.2009
@arvinddeshpande: Nope. A site can work in Firefox but not be compliant, as it may be relying on Firefox quirks, or perhaps Firefox is filling in some blanks.A site is considered standards compliant if it passes verification by the w3c validator.
1.2.2009
What? No it’s not at all. I’m a web developer and IE 8 is NOT standards compliant.In truth, no browser fully is, but WebKit/Safari comes closest.Don’t believe me? Go to w3c.org, open the CSS Level 2 docs, and read: height:100%, min-height, more than one text-shadow at a time, etc. Now try it in your precious web browser. Oh yeah, doesn’t work. No kidding.
1.2.2009
I don’t even use IE8. Of course it’s not perfect, and of course it’s not as good as Firefox or Safari. But the entire ***** reason websites are breaking is because IE is getting MORE standards compliant, and lots of websites are still being built for old IE ***** code. Quit being a ***** moron.
1.2.2009
Mmm, don’t think I’m being a "***** moron…" could you please explain how the sites "breaking" such as MySpace or some Facebook functionality are breaking because of old code for old IE browsers?No, you can’t. Because when good developers code stuff that’s based on quirky behavior of clients they specify that specific quirk and client to workaround. By using "hacks" (I’d prefer to call them conditionals) that are standards compliant you completely eliminate the possibility of breaking a client moving towards more compliance.Your logic flow, resulting in your proposed solution (read: ‘excuse’), is heavily flawed. If a site is standards compliant then it’s standards compliant, it meets standards. Like a plug on a cable that plugs into your power outlet. It works or it doesn’t. They added grounding and your old plugs still work. Surprised? don’t be. It’s called STANDARDS.
1.2.2009
Wouldn’t it be nice if Microsoft would push a standards-compliant browser out to the uninitiated via Windows Update? Maybe warn developers six months in advance so they can implement that header if necessary. Then, boom, most people won’t have to code for IE6 any more!I guess they might want to wait until win2k is fully unsupported since they won’t upgrade ie6 on it. Another year and a half is plenty of time for IE8 to be mainstream.
1.2.2009
That would break a lot of *****.It’s not Microsoft’s fault that a lot of big corporate companies refuse to update their ***** to work with current standards.
1.2.2009
god people dont know a damn thing yet they post bullcrap all over the internet. some web sites dont work in IE8 because it is standards compliant and the web site has code that says "if (ANY VERSION OF IE) DO THIS WORKAROUND" that changes the renderingIE8 is a great browser, and is in fact more advanced than Firefox in terms of everything but cosmetic customizability if you would get off your high horse and try it out. after testing out chrome, firefox and ie8, i have to say its a really close battle, but why install an extra program if youre in windows (use ie) and the rendering engine is used in lots of other programs. if you use linux, its a different story..ffox all the way
1.2.2009
Lynx FTW.
1.2.2009
The only soluction to this problem is that Microsoft needs to start following standards. They’re there for a reason.
1.2.2009
Perhaps you should read the article. IE8 is standards compliant and that is the problem.